The accusation of forcing people into islam

the subject here I will talk about is the accusation of anti-islamic people and christian fanatical also jewish writers such as mark spencer and the MP in the netherland perliment geert wilders is muslim forcing people to enter the islam using different method such as sword
2:256(the Cow) in the quran say(Compulsion is incompatible with religion, therefore let there be no compulsion in religion. Now the path of righteousness has been distinguished from the path of error and holiness distinguished from vindictiveness. Therefore, he who rejects false beliefs and turns his attention to Allah with a religious mind, will have firmly grasped the eternal, unchangeable and most secure handhold which shall never separate, nor shall it suffer a break, and Allah is Sami‘un and 'Alimun)
Ibn kather as one of the most famous and influential muslim schoolar that write his famous commentary on the quoran (tafseer ibn kather) mention the occasion in which this verse descend on the profit to be written in the koran.
Ibn kather say: Ibn Jarir recorded that Ibn `Abbas said ﴿that before Islam﴾, "When (an Ansar) woman would not bear children who would live, she would vow that if she gives birth to a child who remains alive, she would raise him as a Jew. When Banu An-Nadir (the Jewish tribe) were evacuated ﴿from Al-Madinah﴾, some of the children of the Ansar were being raised among them, and the Ansar said, `We will not abandon our children.' Allah revealed
Also Ibn kather mention narrative quoting Ibn Jorair who is to be another famous muslim schoolar write famous koran commentary and history os islam,Ibn jorair write narrative of ibn abbas:the cause of the verse (Compulsion is incompatible with religion) to be desended is man from the supporters(the inhabitant of al-madena were the profit(God blessing upon him) migrate from mecca) his name is al-hosaini from the tribe of salem bin 3awf had two sons convert to christianity by two oil dealers from whats known now by syria(this portion was added by another trustee schoolar his name is alseedi) so the father ask the profit to track them to get them back and this why this verse descended.
We were in spain(Andalusia) for 800 years and because we fail to proceed with koran orders we end being kicked out by the Castilian armies which have been catholic of course.
Durant, Will & Ariel mention in their famous Encyclopedia the story of civilization about the muslim settle in spain which I don’t call it conquer since muslim actually librate spain from goths upon the request of some of her people and we establish civilization last for 800 years.
The story of civilization-Islamic civilization-chapter 13-western islam 641 to 1086-section 4: SPANISH ISLAM: 711-1086:( The victors treated the conquered leniently, confiscated the lands only of those who had actively resisted, exacted no greater tax than had been levied by the Visigothic kings, and gave to religious worship a freedom rare in Spain
Christian discremenated christian and then muslim came and give all including jewush freedom of warship and relegion.
The question is what happen after we were kicked out of spain?
Not what happen for us but for all other chrustian and jewish whom releigion disagree with the new comer to the crown.
Also they say("Never was Andalusia so mildly, justly and wisely governed as by her
Arab conquerors. `It is the judgment of a great Christian
Orientalist, whose enthusiasm may require some discounting of his
praise; but after due deductions his verdict stands. The emirs and
caliphs of Spain were as cruel as Machiavelli thought necessary to the
stability of a government; sometimes they were barbarously and
callously cruel, as when Mutadid grew flowers in the skulls of his
dead foes, or as when the poetic Mutamid hacked to pieces the lifelong
friend who had at last betrayed and insulted him. Against
these stray instances al-Maqqari gives a hundred examples of the
justice, liberality, and refinement of the Umayyad rulers of
Spain. They compare favorably with the Greek emperors of their
time; and they were certainly an improvement upon the illiberal
Visigothic regime that had preceded them. Their management of public
affairs was the most competent in the Western world of that age.
Laws were rational and humane, and were administered by a
well-organized judiciary. For the most part the conquered, in their
internal affairs, were governed by their own laws and their own
officials. Towns were well policed; markets, weights and
measures were effectively supervised. A regular census recorded
population and property. Taxation was reasonable compared with the
imposts of Rome or Byzantium. The revenues of the Cordovan caliphate
under Abd-er-Rahman III reached 12,045,000 gold dinars
($57,213,750)- probably more than the united governmental revenues
of Latin Christendom; but these receipts were due not so
much to high taxes as to well-governed and progressive agriculture,
industry, and trade.
We don’t collect our money from hight taxes( jezia on christians and jewish) or from selling forgiveness documents( what the church did after in the 16th century to collect money) but by improving trade, agriculture and government performance which all were new to spain.
We give spain 800 year of fresh air in knowledge, science, government performance improvments and without muslims spain will be 800 year behind everybody else ruled by half naked barbarian tribes called Gothic
On the other hand the Moorish authorities gave freedom of worship to all non-Moslem faiths. The Jews, harshly hounded by the Visigoths, had helped the
Moslem conquest of Spain; they lived now- until the twelfth century-
in peace with the conquerors, developed wealth and learning, and
sometimes rose to high place in the government.
Did you read who help muslims settle in spain?
Who were the jewish the real discremenaters?
They are not the muslims, they are the christian represented by the church of all branches.
Christians faced
greater obstacles to political preferment, but many succeeded
nevertheless. Christian males, like all males, were subject to
compulsory circumcision as a measure of national hygiene; otherwise
they were ruled by their own Visigothic-Roman law, administered by
magistrates of their own choosing.
The circumcision is jewish law mention in the old testemant and it was covenant between God and ibraham, this is known for everybody.
Genesis 17:9-10(Then God said to Abraham, "As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.)
Jesus came to keep the law of moses as he mention in mathew 5:17(Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.)
Hebrew 10:28(Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses)
Paul cancel the circumcision in several locations from his letters such as Romans 2:25-29(25Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the[c] written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker
28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God
Jesus discples and followers, paul discples and followers disagree in Jerusalem conference in 50 CE on the issue of circumcision.
In return for exemption
from military service, free and able Christian males paid a land
tax, normally forty-eight dirhems ($24.00) per year for the rich,
twenty-four for the middle classes, twelve for manual workers.
Comment: some countries in the middle east now people pay up to 6000 american dollars to get cancallation from the military service, you don’t have money or medical note approved by army doctor, you will serve in the army and government don’t care if you are poor.
Christians and Moslems intermarried freely
I would remind reader here by 2john 1:10(If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him)
Notice: I would like to add the judaism that Mr. spencer belong don’t allow the jewish woman to marry un-jewish and that mention in several locations mostly in Leviticus
We don’t have the problems with the christian but it look for me the the Bible having some issues that need explanation from the churches and its pastors.
now and then they joined
in celebrating a Christian or Moslem holyday, or used the same
building as church and mosque. Some Christians, conforming
to the custom of the country, established harems, or practiced
pederasty. Clerics and laymen from Christian Europe came in
safety and freedom to Cordova, Toledo, or Seville as students,
visitors, or travelers. One Christian complained of the results in
terms that recall ancient Hebrew criticism of Hellenizing Jews.
I need to ask who spread islam in indonesia?
I don’t know we send armies there.
We never invade china and they have over 20 million muslims, we did’nt send even one soldsior to chinese city.
Why the occupants of madena accept the messege of mohamad(God blessing upon him) when he came to them with abo baker and their guidence, they could send half dozen fighters to finish them all for good in the desert.
Open your brain for me please and answer: who force thousand of men, woman, wealthy people, skilled fighters to give their lead and city to this lonely man travelling from his mother city in the desert in the hot sesson?
Who force them to take enemies all this powerful tribes around them making themselfes in very hostile enviroment sacrifice everything they have for the seek of God that they never see but believe his massenger?
After all what everybody read here written by non other but one of the most famous protstant schoolar some people that their heart full of eveil and hatered try to lie on people misclead them and wash their brain
I hope my little explanation would help even little pit and if you have any commentary or question just write for me or make comment
All welcome to make comment from muslims, christian and jewish
See you in the next subject which gonna be related and not far from this one.
Sincerely
Mr. looking for the truth